Let's Make January 6th a National Holiday. "Democracy Day" - The Day When the USA Defeated the Monarchists That Tried To Overthrow The US Government and Crown Trump Czar.

 

"I was Duped" says QAnon Shaman

Just Like the Fourth of July When We Threw King George of England OUT... 

or December 7th when Enemies of the USA Bombed Pearl Harbor... 

1/6 is a Day That We All Should Remember... TREASON FAILED!

Please Let Your Elected Officials Know That WE Have Had Enough of the Madness!

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

https://www.senate.gov/general/contacting.htm

https://www.house.gov/representatives

Marjorie Taylor Greene Cancels QAnon Civil War Scheduled for September... https://news.yahoo.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-admits-trump-134454232.html "I want people to be careful in what they believe."

Virtually all new Covid deaths and hospitalizations are among unvaccinated people, White House says... https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/08/covid-vaccines-nearly-all-deaths-hospitalizations-among-unvaccinated.html

Trump's Border Wall is DOOMED TO FAIL. It's 260 Years Too Late. Mexicans "Invaded" California in 1760... They Founded the Town of Saint Douglas (San Diego)... Then they Founded the City of the Angels (Los Angeles)... San Francisco, San Jose, San Juan Boutista, Santa Clara, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Santa Cruz,The Colorful State (Colorado), The Flowery State (Florida) and the Snowy State (Nevada)...

Trump's Border Wall is also DOOMED because people FLY over it in Airplanes, Sail Around it in Boats and Drive Thru at Checkpoints using Fake ID... What's to prevent a person from Mailing a California Driver License to Tijuana? Then a Person that LOOKS SIMILAR presents it at the Crossing at San Ysidro... A Walls won't prevent Identity Fraud... Remember this: The Great Wall of China FAILED to Keep the Chinese Out... There are Chinese on BOTH SIDES of that wall. 

How do you build a wall on a RIVER? The Great River (Rio Grande) divides the State of TEJAS (Texas) from Mexico... 

The OTHER MAIN FLAW with Trump's Border Wall is that Latino People are Not That Scary. I was born in the City of Saint Joseph (San Jose) and about half the people are Hispanic... For example: My Hero in Junior High School was an Elegant Man Named Isidro M... He was the Basketball Coach... On my Facebook Group of Alumni from The Cats High School (Los Gatos) everyone agreed that he was a LOVED and RESPECTED Teacher... 

Why would you want to build a wall between the USA and Mexico when Mexicans are nice people? Perhaps Trump was Mugged by Puerto Ricans when he was a Child in Queens? Maybe THAT's why he has so much hatred... I remember the Musical "West Side Story" was about rival Street Gangs... One made up of Polish Kids and the Other was Puerto Rican... A famous song was "Maria" and then they Named a Hurricane "Maria" that wiped out the Island Of Puerto Rico... Trump's FEMA Failed Badly to repair Puerto Rico...  

One of the Secrets to the Success of Silicon Valley was that corporate leaders hired smart people from all over the world move to San Jose to work in Computers... My Next Door neighbor was from Nicaragua... Who knew that there were Computer Scientists in Nicaragua? IBM did... We also knew a Nazi who came to NASA after WW2...  When I went to work at System Industries in Santa Clara most of the employees were Asian or Hispanic... I had a LOT of Respect for my direct supervisor who was a Harley Davidson Riding Martial Artist... I certainly did what he told me to do... I was afraid of him because he could beat me up... but he never had to because I simply Honored His Wisdom... 

I was obsessive about visiting the Salvador Dali Painting of Jesus at the Last Supper... at the National Art Gallery in Washington DC

I went to see that painting often and then I noticed that THE SAME PEOPLE KEPT ON SHOWING UP... It was like a Church... in it's own room... Great for Prayer and Meditation... Try it Now... Look at This Painting and BE BLESSED!

This ECO-ACTION Took Place Long Ago But... TODAY WOULD BE A GREAT DAY to Shutdown Washington DC 9/23 Eco Action... No Cars! No Trucks! Ride the Freaking Subway! THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE...

Another Ecology Protest 9/23 Shutdown Washington DC
This One May End With Mass Arrests!
Mass Beatings By Police - National Guard...
I Recommend NOT GOING...
But... Sometimes...
THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY
LOOKS LIKE...
Seattle World Trade Organization Protests...
Chicago 1968 Democratic Convention...
The Weathermen... Kent State...
Earth First! Humboldt County Timber Wars...

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A PRESS Hat Might Protect You From Getting Your Head Bashed in By The Police at a Protest March... or it Might NOT! I Remember People Made Fake T-Shirts That Said: "Security - Shoreline Amphitheater" and used them to sneak in to concerts... Of Course, You MAY Change The Word... For Example: You Could Walk Around Wearing a Hat That Says: FLOWER POWER or NO NUKES or ASK ME HOW TO BEAT TRUMP IN 2020... and then when they ask... you say... "Like a Pinata!"

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Great Documentary Movie: Climbing Redwood Giants - Life in the sky... National Geographic. About The Old Growth Redwood Forest in Northern California. The World's Tallest Trees! Featuring Steve Sillett HSU teacher... Humboldt State University...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-8OCecOmEQ
Clip of the Winner of the International Forest Film Festival They are living giants, one of Earth's largest and oldest trees. Some tower more than 350 feet high, taller than the Statue of Liberty; some may have been seedlings when Jesus was born. Yet, these natural legends still shroud centuries-old secrets. In a major National Geographic cross-platform event, which includes the October, 2009 cover story for the magazine, we reveal the little-explored environment of the redwoods using high-tech aerial laser surveys and breathtaking imagery.

United Nations Forum on Forests website: http://www.un.org/esa/forests/

The best-selling book The Wild Trees made Steve Sillett a legend among tall-tree climbers. Now, as National Geographic magazine features his work in a cover story and documentary, Humboldt State’s skywalking professor launches a groundbreaking study into the effects of climate change on redwoods.
http://magazine.humboldt.edu/fall09/tallest-trees-unveiled/

Steve Sillette's Teacher Page at School...
http://www2.humboldt.edu/redwoods/

Sequoia Park in Eureka, CA - Redwood Trees

READ MORE: 

Welcome to Freshwater, California USA. Location of a year long tree-sit Protesting Logging of the Redwood Forest. The people living in the trees were evicted by Eric Schatz... A Sub contractor working for MAXXAM Corporation.

 https://gvan42.blogspot.com/2019/07/welcome-to-freshwater-california-usa.html

This is a picture of the clearcut forest two years later when pampas grass has grown 

where redwood trees used to be.

Scenes before the trees were all cut down... very dark pictures in the forest... Protesters watch the eviction of the treesitters... 

Interesting Movie: Who Bombed Judi Bari? 
https://www.imdb.com/video/vi742497305?ref_=tt_pv_vi_aiv_1

Judi Bari and Darryl Cherney were falsely arrested for car-bombing themselves on May 24, 1990 while on an Earth First! musical organizing tour for Redwood Summer. They sued the FBI for violations of the First Amendment, claiming the FBI knew they were innocent but arrested them to try to silence them. Having survived the bomb but now stricken by cancer, Judi Bari, a leader of the movement to save California's old growth redwoods, gives her on-camera, deathbed testimony about the attempt on her life and her colorful organizing history with the radical environmental movement Earth First!

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Bombed_Judi_Bari

Trump is an Illegitimate President. Hillary Got More Votes but Putin's Puppet got The Electoral College. That's Crazy! Join the Movement to End the Madness at: nationalpopularvote.com

https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

Is Donald Trump Committing TREASON? Or is Trump Just A Battered Wife? a Whipped Slave?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/07/16/donald-trump-committing-treason/IwvTjJW4rvDdZD1vhvYMlI/story.html

Top Republicans in Congress break with Trump over Putin comments

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/16/politics/congress-reaction-trump-putin-comments/index.html

This is what Socialism Looks Like: Trump announced $16 Billion in WELFARE PAYMENTS to Farmers That are Harmed by His Insane Trade War.

When Obama was President, Farmers earned a living by Growing and Selling Crops. 

People ask: Where will all this Money come from? Well, from MORE Deficit Spending! Since Trump's Tax Cut for the Rich Law is Currently Failing to Collect Enough to Pay for the Cost of the US Government, we are Increasing the National Debt in Hopes that YOUR Grandchildren and Great Grandchildren and Great-Great Grandchildren will pay for it all... This Year had the Largest Deficit in History... and Now Trump wants to Make a $16 Billion Welfare Payment to Farmers and a $19 Billion Dollar Payment for Disaster Relief... The Midwest is experiencing Record Tornado Damage and Flooding due to Climate Change... and The West needs help for Wildfires... and and and... This Summer we Expect More of the Same! More Wildfires, More Tornadoes, More Hurricanes and More Floods...   

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I already own all the Cheap Chinese Junk I will ever Need. I have a Laptop and a TV and I'm going to keep them and use them for another decade. They work fine and there is no need to buy a BRAND NEW SMARTPHONE! because the one I already own is great... So the Chinese plan to stop selling RARE EARTH MINERALS that are required to make Electronic Gizmos... Well, so Freaking What! From now on I'm buying used... Used Clothes totally undermine the Chinese Fabric Industry... I find it INSANE that we Import Cotton Fabric... Why not GROW COTTON IN THE AMERICAN SOUTH? and Weave it in places like Burlington, Vermont... We did that Years ago... Why not Now?

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Presidential Candidate Pete Buttigieg says Trump was a Draft Dodger during the Vietnam War because he Bribed a Doctor to write a FAKE Medical Deferment... Well, That was a Smart Move by Trump. Only an Idiot would Go to Vietnam unless he was Forced to... Everyone who had a Rich Daddy Dodged the Draft. It was a Totally Insane War... History has proved it to be a Horrible Waste of American Lives and Taxpayer Dollars. So Mayor Pete went to Afghanistan... Well, What The FORK did he Accomplish? The only thing we have done in Afghanistan is INCREASE THE OPIUM CROP YIELD... Thanks, Pete...

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Little Stevie Mnuchin Warns of ‘Late Summer’ Default If No Debt-Limit Increase.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-22/mnuchin-warns-of-late-summer-default-if-no-debt-limit-increase

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Trump's Family, Staff Should Stage an Intervention for the good of the country. "Just because I have a hotel in my foot doesn't make me a boogily-moogily-moogily!" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-congress-pelosi/pelosi-says-she-wishes-for-family-staff-intervention-after-trump-tantrum-idUSKCN1ST20O

Mitch McConnell Russian Bribery Scandal - Sanctions were lifted on Oleg Deripaska and then he decided to build a $200 Million Dollar Aluminum Factory in Kentucky. Quid Pro Quo? Obvious Payback?

Little Stevie Munchkin, Treasury Secretary, and Mitch McConnell both Lobbied for the US Senate to Remove sanctions on Oleg Deripaska... The House had voted in a Bi-Partisan way to Keep Sanctions...  and then SURPRISE SURPRISE Mitch Benefits...

SANCTIONED RUSSIAN OLIGARCH'S COMPANY TO INVEST MILLIONS IN NEW ALUMINUM PLANT IN MITCH MCCONNELL'S STATE.
https://www.newsweek.com/company-russian-oligarch-millions-aluminum-plant-mitch-mcconnell-1397061

Congressional Leaders Seek Investigation into Russian Investment in Ky. Aluminum Mill.
https://www.wvpublic.org/post/congressional-leaders-seek-investigation-russian-investment-ky-aluminum-mill

Wife of lobbyist for Russian plant in KY got boost from McConnell...
Rachel Maddow notes how the dots connect awkwardly for Mitch McConnell after the wife of the lobbyist who alerted McConnell to a huge Russian investment in Kentucky was suddenly processed for a federal judgeship for which she is not qualified.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/wife-of-lobbyist-for-russian-plant-in-ky-got-boost-from-mcconnell-60082245958

Rachel Maddow connects the dots on an epic financial scandal involving Mitch McConnell and Russia...

https://www.salon.com/2019/05/22/rachel-maddow-connects-the-dots-on-an-epic-financial-scandal-involving-mitch-mcconnell-and-russia_partner/

It would be Totally Crazy to Sell Nuclear Power Technology to Saudi Arabia... The Could use it to Make Atom Bombs... They Caused 9/11... What if they Blow Up an Atomic Bomb in New York City?

U.S. Secretary of Energy Rick Perry visited the Saudi Arabia capitol in Riyad for talks on the nuclear deal that would include negotiations with the bankrupt Westinghouse Electric Corporation to build two of the nuclear power projects. 
http://www.beyondnuclear.org/home/2017/12/6/us-nuclear-companies-invited-to-help-launch-saudi-arabias-da.html

Only Congress Stands Between Saudi Arabia and Nuclear Weapons... Congress must act now in anticipation if it is to stop an arrangement that would allow Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman to outfit himself with everything he needs for a bomb. https://nationalinterest.org/feature/only-congress-stands-between-saudi-arabia-and-nuclear-weapons-63542

Inside the Secret Campaign to Export U.S. Nuclear Tech to Saudi Arabia. Industry coalition’s push to win over the Trump administration is concerning officials on Capitol Hill who are fearful that it could threaten U.S. national security. https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-the-secret-campaign-to-export-us-nuclear-tech-to-saudi-arabia?ref=scroll

 TURNING THE HEAVENS INTO A WAR ZONE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alDoVoZeOwU&feature=youtu.be

Trump Cuts National Guard Budget for Firefighting in California ...AND... Massive Fire Burning Out of Control Near Redding, California. TRUMP IS A DANGEROUS MENACE TO SOCIETY.

California Governor Releases Statement on Trump Administration’s Plan to Divert Funds for National Guard Wildfire Fighting to Build Border Wall...
  https://goldrushcam.com/sierrasuntimes/index.php/news/local-news/20026-california-governor-releases-statement-on-trump-administration-s-plan-to-divert-funds-for-national-guard-wildfire-fighting-to-build-border-wall 

Red Bank Fire: What we know about the wildfire near Redding, including evacuations...
https://www.redding.com/story/news/2019/09/05/red-bank-fire-red-bluff-redding-ca-evacuations-wildfire/2227946001/

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The REASON we have a DEBT CRISIS is That Trump's Tax Cut for the Rich Law Has FAILED to Collect as much Money as the Government Spends. Promises Made, Promises Broken.

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HEADLINE: Mnuchin warns US could hit debt ceiling in early September.


Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is warning that the United States could run out of money in early September unless Congress votes to raise the debt ceiling before leaving for the August recess. 

https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/452810-mnuchin-warns-debt-ceiling-could-be-hit-in-early-september

HEADLINE: Mnuchin, Pelosi Keep Communications Going on Debt Ceiling Deal.

President Donald Trump on Friday said he thinks negotiations to lift U.S. borrowing authority were in “good shape,” despite Pelosi having rejected a White House demand for $150 billion in spending cuts.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-19/white-house-sends-pelosi-spending-cut-options-for-debt-deal

Trump's So Called "Booming" Economy is a Disaster - Headline: At least 2,500 truck drivers have lost their jobs in 2019 as the transportation 'bloodbath' unfolds...

Headline: Here's the full list of bankrupt trucking companies. https://www.insider.com/trucking-companies-bankrupt-list-truckers-react-to-industry-bloodbath-2019-7

Headline: Store closures accelerate and may top 12,000 in 2019. Here’s what’s closed so far this year.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/13/retail-store-closures-in-2019-freds-charming-charlie-and-more.html

Headline: Stearns Lending declares Chapter 11 bankruptcy. https://www.housingwire.com/articles/49511-stearns-lending-declares-chapter-11-bankruptcy

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Another Weirdo TrumpNik - Headline: George Nader, Witness in Mueller Probe, Hit With New Charges of Sex Trafficking. The key cooperator is accused of preying on a 14-year-old boy from Europe he allegedly flew to the U.S. https://www.thedailybeast.com/george-nader-witness-in-mueller-probe-hit-with-new-charges-of-sex-trafficking

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We Need Immigrants to Do the Jobs Americans Refuse. We Need Care Givers to Work at Old Folks Homes. We Simply Did Not Have Enough Children to Take Care of the Aging Baby Boomers. We Need Servants... Maids, Gardeners, Carpenters, Farm Workers, Drivers and...

...There are NOT ENOUGH Young People. In the USA, Japan and Europe there is a NEED and That's WHY we have so much Immigration. Everyone moves to where the Jobs are. When I was a Child, we had Braceros that came from Mexico to harvest the crops. California's central valley grows a vast quantity of America's food. I remember that at "Sun Valley Farms" (the flower growers) they all of a sudden had to check green cards for Illegal Aliens. Sun Valley is currently having difficulty finding people to do the work. Young White people take a job and then quit because the work is back breaking labor... and Other employers (like Taco Bell) have better conditions. 

John Carlos Frey book: "Sand and Blood" is about the history of building the wall during the Clinton Presidency. Douglas Hunter (Congressman from San Diego) was a big proponent of Building the Wall. Construction the Wall near Tijuana caused increase of deaths in the desert East of San Diego... Hunter's Brother felt guilty about his action and now places gallons of water in the desert in order to save lives of people walking across the Desert. 

https://www.amazon.com/Sand-Blood-Americas-Stealth-Mexico/dp/156858847X

Carmalita Torres is the "Rosa Parks" of Mexican Immigration. She Walked across the border every day to work as a maid in Texas. Then the Border Guards started mandatory DE-LOUSING. People were stripped naked and washed with kerosene. EVERY DAY. Carmalita Refused and started a Protest that Closed the Border for a Day. The final effect was that people no longer lived in Mexico and worked in the USA. NOW, once they get over the border, they stay permanently... and their children are Born in the USA... Just like Bruce Springsteen... and are Automatically Citizens. 

John Carlos's Mother was arrested and deported because she did not have her Green Card on her when she was stopped by The Border Patrol. The next day, her husband went to the Tijuana Jail with the Green Card and she was released. All this happened while her young children were watching. "Bad Man Taking Mommy Away." It was a traumatic experience for a child to witness his mother being Kidnapped.

Corporations are making a vast profit housing children in Concentration Camps near the border. $750.00 a Day per child... The Businessmen want more immigrants so they can make more profit. John (the former White House Chief of Staff) is now on the Board of Directors of a Florida Concentration Camp. 

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Is the Electoral College the Best Way to Select a President? NO, That's a Crazy System... Here is An Article SAYING YES by Trent England. (a puppet of the Super Rich... He's Employed by the Heritage Foundation... Famous For Evil Propaganda.) A Debate by my Facebook Friends...

Victor Koman Says: Excellent article with historical examples regarding the dangers of abandoning our republic’s well-thought-out Electoral College for the reckless, unconstitutional National Popular Vote:

Once upon a time, the Electoral College was not controversial. During the debates over ratifying the Constitution, Anti-Federalist opponents of ratification barely mentioned it. But by the mid-twentieth century, opponents of the Electoral College nearly convinced Congress to propose an amendment to scrap it. And today, more than a dozen states have joined in an attempt to hijack the Electoral College as a way to force a national popular vote for president.

What changed along the way? And does it matter? After all, the critics of the Electoral College simply want to elect the president the way we elect most other officials. Every state governor is chosen by a statewide popular vote. Why not a national popular vote for president?

Kathryn Dawkins - Ridiculous!

Denise Fuller-Hilton - Excellent read.

LeRoy Lauer - Frightening! We must fight to save minority rural rule!

Gregory Laan - The Electoral College was Intentionally Designed to keep the Masses from Selecting the President... The Founding Fathers wanted to Keep Power in their Own Hands... No Votes for Blacks or Women... only rich white men vote...

Victor Koman - Wrong. It works just as well now with nearly universal suffrage. Remember: we are a Republic, not a democracy. Democracies fall very quickly when a majority decides to oppress a minority or loot a treasury. Republics are founded on principles that the mob cannot override by sheer force of numbers.
The problems we are having now are the result of a century of Progressive efforts to subvert our republican form of government ineluctably toward a democracy. The result, if not resisted, will be chaos followed by tyranny.

Gregory Laan - The Founding Fathers were afraid that The Uneducated Masses in New York would be Convinced by some Rabble Rousing Orator to Select a Bad President... At Least That's What my Brother Martin Says...

Victor Koman - And yet these rich white men put nothing in the Constitution saying “this applies only to rich white men.” 
Weird, huh? Because the Constitution was what the Abolitionists relied on to end slavery, what the suffragettes pointed to in demanding the vote, and Martin Luther King appealed to in fighting (the Democrats’) segregation and (the Democrats’) Jim Crow laws. So weird that the Constitution failed to protect the privilege of rich white guys, yet remains in force as the guiding republican ideal for the most diverse nation ever witnessed by history.

Gregory Laan - Victor Koman Interesting insight! Remember Democrat Lyndon Johnson's Civil Rights Act. That was a Good thing but Johnson was only remembered for Vietnam... https://www.history.com/.../johnson-signs-civil-rights-act

Gregory Laan - Victor Koman - Only White Property Owners were allowed to vote. You do not have to write something down for it to be true... "Even a Blind Man Knows When The Sun is Shining."

Gregory Laan - PAPER BALLOTS - PURPLE THUMBS. Election Security is Very Simple. After voting every person dips their thumb in purple dye preventing them from voting twice. No one needs to register to vote. Everyone has a right to vote.
Paper Ballots allow recounting if there is a question about cheating... SO VERY SIMPLE... No Microsoft/DARPA Machines needed... Just Count the votes with a pencil and paper... a HUMAN reads the ballot and makes a mark to tally the votes. 

Robert Noel - The electoral college made sense back in the 1800s

Victor Koman - As it does now. Because Math!

Robert Noel - Victor Koman - that isn't what you call coherent. Math?

Victor Koman - Robert — Check out prior comments about #AlanNatapoff’s mathematical proof that the EC maximizes every individual’s voting power.

Robert Noel - Victor Koman - I don't see that article? My thought is that a person in Wyoming has far more power than one in larger states based on the population and electoral votes. I'll read the hillsdale one when I have time but after skimming through it, I can find flaws.

Victor Koman - "Anyone who supports — or opposes — the Electoral College for partisan reasons is bound to be disappointed. Consider how often the Electoral College “advantage” has flipped over the years." 
https://twitter.com/TaraRoss/status/1143554173868359680

Gregory Laan - Of Course, the Real Trouble with the Electoral College is The Other Team Won... If it Helped Democrats win they would be all for it... Everyone is a Hypno-Cat...

Robert Noel - Gregory Laan - that's the best reason for getting rid of it.

Gregory Laan - We the People have shown wisdom in our selection of Presidents. George Bush the son Was the Worst President in my Lifetime. Al Gore got more votes... Trump Is Number Two in the Race for Worst President... Hillary got more Votes... We the people Chose the Better Candidate Both Times.

Stephan Kinsella - Victor, I thought you were a fellow anarchist libertarian. Didn't realize you were a fan of the American central state and our "republic" and "our" "well-thought-out" "Electoral college." WTF. What is universalizable or libertarian about this US-founder-worship stuff?

Victor Koman - Stephan — It beats Socialism and it pisses off liberals. What could be more fun?

Stephan Kinsella - Victor Koman - Fair point. I would answer: Trump.

Gregory Laan - The Author: Trent England works for the Heritage Foundation. An organization that is known for Writing "Learned" Articles Supporting WHATEVER THEY ARE PAID TO SAY. Obvious Think Tank Whores.

Simon Hawke - Sorry to disagree with you, Vic, but I'm in favor of getting rid of it. What we have now is precisely a case of the majority being oppressed by the minority.  In this case, powerful corporations controlling politicians at the expense of the working class. If the popular vote means nothing, why bother having elections? Twice in recent memory, we've had politicians winning the popular vote, only to lose the election. It should be one person, one vote. Otherwise, it's meaningless.

Victor Koman - Simon — “History shows that the Electoral College is neither pro-Democrat nor pro-Republican. Instead, it rewards the candidate who appears to be listening to the greatest cross-section of people at any given time. It encourages coalition-building across states and regions, which is healthy in a large and diverse nation.” From https://thehill.com/.../450069-the-electoral-college-isnt...

Gregory Laan - Victor Koman - FALSE - It Helped G W Bush and Trump... Both were Republicrimes...

Victor Koman - And, ultimately, the NPV crowd will have to amend the Constitution, and their attempt to subvert the EC with their compact has to be affirmed by Congress.

Simon Hawke - I don't have any problems with the idea of Constitutional amendments. It makes sense to amend a document that's over 200 years old and was written at a time when we still had slavery and women didn't have the right to vote. Bottom line: this is OUR country, meaning the people, and we should be able to run it any way we want. (Which is not what's happening now.)

Stephan Kinsella - Simon Hawke - Everyone has this benign view of what they call "a document" and then they think of the "document" as a "great attempt" to "protect human freedom" or some such bullshit. The "Constitution" was simply a document STARTING a new central state--it "constituted" it--it made it exist. IT granted it powers. It has literally nothing to do wtih human liberty or freedom. Why libertarians worsip the founding constitutional document of a STATE is beyond me. Idiots.

Kathryn Dawkins - Victor, posting this article is a politically motivated act on your part. Why are you pretending otherwise?

Tom Brosz - In 2004, the Democrats fought like hell for around 100,000 votes in Ohio to try to switch that state's electoral votes from Bush to Kerry. Had they succeeded, Kerry would have won the Electoral College and become president.
This, while Bush had around three million more popular votes than Kerry. Three million.
Anybody think that if Kerry had somehow managed to land Ohio, any Democrats would have been calling Kerry an "illegitimate" president because he was three million popular votes behind Bush? Or that any Democrats would be wailing about how awful the Electoral College is? Me either.
The noise the Democrats are making about the Electoral College is the same as the noise you hear about filibusters. If it gains the Democrats political power, it's one of the main foundations of our democracy. If it loses the Democrats power, it's an archaic remnant that needs to be ditched as soon as possible. Flip back and forth as necessary.
Just for the record, If California’s votes had been left out of the 2016 election, both Trump’s and Hillary’s, Trump would have been 1.4 million popular votes ahead.

Gregory Laan - We have elected some astonishingly evil Presidents. Nixon ran the Vietnam war an extra four years, maybe 15,000 extra dead Americans... Reagan Imported TONS of Cocaine to fund the Contras in Nicaragua... and He sold Anthrax to Saddam Hussein... REALLY! Donald Rumsfeld made the sale! https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/

Gregory Laan - Debating the Merits of the Electoral College is Fun but... I don't think we are going to HAVE an Election in 2020. If Trump Loses, He will declare the Election FAKE and remain in the White House as CZAR. Defended by GUN NUTS just like they did in Oregon This week... They keep on Talking about the coming Civil War and... IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE.

Tom Brosz - Yeah, we wouldn't want to see what happens when one political side simply refuses to accept the results of an election.
What do you think this entire "Kill the Electoral College" thing is about in the first place?

Gregory Laan - A Morality Free Life. To Republicans, concepts Like Right and Wrong JUST DON'T MATTER. I was raised in a World where there is Good and Evil. Mom taught me to Do Good and Avoid Evil.
Well, Republicans don't do that. They just ask Do We Win? Will it work? Will it give US an advantage? Total disregard for the Ten Commandments... Some Philosophers [Nietzsche?] have said that it is impossible to do things that are wrong. If any action was actually wrong, it would be impossible to do it. I have heard that Jimmy Page of the Rock Band Led Zeppelin embraced this philosophy... 
That's the Reason SO MANY REPUBLICANS END UP IN PRISON... 
https://gvan42.blogspot.com/.../a-morality-free-life-to... 
On the other hand... I saw Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor doing a Book Signing and she walked around in the audience to answer reader's questions... She is such an Enlightened Being that she Floated among the people LIKE THE DALAI LAMA... She writes children's Books to inspire young people to do wonderful things...

Victor Koman - Strange... I remember when it was the Left that accused the Right of being moralistic and uptight for not merely believing in right and wrong, but believing in reflecting morality in law and culture. The intellectual/artistic Left reacted by promoting the cult of moral grayness, creating TV and movies and novels with "anti-heroes", making villains from literature and history into "misunderstood" victims or even heroes in their own way. Pornography was defended and celebrated and immorality was embraced.
Now, it seems, the tables have turned. Over the past few years, we've seen feminists denounce porn and equate consensual heterosexual sex with rape. We've seen secular humanists embrace pseudo-theistic quasi-religions such as Gaea worship and Voluntary Human Extinction, and leftists of all types wrap themselves in a moralistic, accusatory toga of outrage that would make a 1970s televangelist ask "Why so judgie?"
The truth is, the left still pursues its mysosophy of moral decay as a means to soften up a culture, collapse it, then impose their usual socialist tyranny. But now, they are — more than ever — loudly employing Saul Alinsky's tactic of accusing their adversaries of the very acts they themselves employ. This is how the DNC and the Clinton campaign can collude by proxy with Russia to generate a fake dossier on Trump, then use it to accuse Trump of colluding with Russia. Or why AntiFa can use fascistic mob brutality to assault and silence conservative speakers (Their Speech is Violence! Our Violence is Speech!). Or why members of the Democrat party — which started a civil war to preserve slavery, imposed the Black Codes, segregation, and Jim Crow, and filibustered the Civil Rights Act — can straight-faced accuse the other party of "wanting to put y'all back in chains."
Did half the people who were outraged that Biden would speak of working with segregationist senators James Eastland of Mississippi and Herman Talmadge of Georgia even know they were both Democrats?
It's all psychological confession. Leftists either consciously lie about their enemies as misdirection, or they project their own flaws and history on others because they can't acknowledge the enormity of their own guilt.
It's really jaw-droppingly hilarious to watch the party with the worst, centuries-long record on race calling anyone else racist. If slavery reparations were really intended to pursue justice, only Democrats should have to pony up.

Stephan Kinsella - Democrats and leftists have always been worse, IMO. They are not even real secularists--they worship the state and democracy as their gods.

Victor Koman - P.S. There are just as many Democrats convicted of crimes as Republicans: https://en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_American_federal...

Gregory Laan - That's an Interesting List! Mike Flynn is listed as a Democrat! I'm remembering so many names... James Watt, Secretary of Interior... General David "Betray US"... Scooter Libby! Pardoned by Trump for his OUTING of CIA Agent Valerie Plame... I remember that scandal very well... Bush the Son kept on saying he was going to FIND OUT WHO DID IT and kept on pretending that Democrats committed Treason when OOPS, it was his own man who did the dirty deed... and it was all over her husband's exposing Bush the Son's failure to commit forgery effectively in their attempt to "prove" Saddam Hussein bought Yellowcake uranium from Nigeria... Total Loss of Face for Evil Republicans... Thanks! I Like Reading History.

Gregory Laan - The Conclusion of the Mueller Report is: TEN (10) TrumpNiks were arrested and Seven (7) went to prison already. Paul Manafort=Guilty, Mike Flynn=Guilty, Michael Cohen=Guilty, George Papadopoulos=Guilty, Alexander Vanderzwann=Guilty, Maria Butina=Guilty, Rick Gates=Guilty, Rodger Stone=NOT Guilty YET. Steven Calk, the banker who wanted to be Secretary of the Army using fraudulent loans to Paul Manafort as Resume Padding was Indicted on Federal Bribery Charges = Plead not Guilty. Maria Butina's Boyfriend, Paul Erickson Arrested, Plead Not Guilty...


Mueller left Impeachment of Trump up to Congress but provided a roadmap.

Robert Noel - OK, I finally had time to read the Hillsdale article - it's a long one. First, off, George Mason was probably correct that a national popular vote was not practical in the 1770s - or even in the 1920s. But today's technology makes it quite easy for people to vote. With some cyber security in place, we could vote on the internet. 
According to the article, Madison was concerned with two things. First, people would tend toward supporting candidates from their own states, giving an advantage to larger states. Second, a few areas with higher concentrations of voters might come to dominate. The first occurs even with the EC system, the second doesn't - but that is a problem because only voters from swing states get to make the decision right now.
The author makes claims about the benefits of the EC. The first is "Under the Electoral College system, presidential elections are decentralized, taking place in the states". This would be true whether you use the EC or not. People would still vote in precincts but one primary difference is that the candidates would be incentivized to visit states where they aren't likely to win but they would perhaps sway the overall vote. The trouble now is that both Dem and GOP candidates generally ignore CA, TX, OK, NY, etc.

Robert Noel - Following up:
The author also makes the claim that the EC allows state boundaries to serve a function analogous to that of watertight compartments on an ocean liner. Disputes over mistakes or fraud are contained within individual states. Illinois can recount its votes, for instance, without triggering a nationwide recount. There is no reason a state or precinct couldn't still count it's votes separately without the EC in place. In fact, if one candidate wins easily overall, many recounts wouldn't need to take place.
Another benefit of the EC according to the author is that it can act to amplify the results of a presidential election. And why is that a benefit? It also leads to wins where the majority didn't agree as in 2016 and other years. These are bad things, not good things.

Robert Noel - The "big" advantage of the EC - according to the author - is the powerful incentive it creates against regionalism. This argument is probably the best but we already have it with the EC anyway. Candidates use this by simply not having to worry about their "region". But potentially arguable.

However, the key thing not mentioned is how little impact people in big states have compared to small states. Even though Wyoming only gets 3 electoral votes, they have much more power than they should given their tiny population. People in Texas or California get much less of a say. Perhaps the silver lining is the lack of campaign signs.


Gregory Laan - and if, For Example, Florida needed a Recount we can always just have the Supreme Court select our President... Like they did with George ( American Idiot) Bush VS Al ( I own a giant eco-disaster House) Gore... What a Bizarro World that was... Republicans Importing Interns to Protest as if they were a Grass Roots Movement of People from Florida!

I don't think we are going to HAVE an Election in 2020. If Trump Loses, He will declare the Election FAKE and remain in the White House as CZAR.

 Defended by GUN NUTS just like they did in Oregon This week... They keep on Talking about the coming Civil War and... IT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. 

AMERICA IS HEADED TOWARDS A CIVIL WAR

 L.T. SMASH 

http://www.returnofkings.com/191926/america-is-headed-towards-a-civil-war

The people of a nation must have common ideological, economic, political, and social ideas they agree upon or the nation, the civilization, will eventually die. Civil war is coming to the United States. Division, contention, fear, and silent invasion are being used to “reshape America.” The civil war that will emerge in the United States will not be like the previous one. This war will be for the mind and heart of the United States. It will be for the soul of the United States. What will we do when this occurs and what will be rebuilt.

HOW THE SECOND AMERICAN CIVIL WAR WILL UNFOLD

 L.T. SMASH

https://www.returnofkings.com/192863/how-the-second-american-civil-war-will-unfold

The coming U.S. Civil War will not have the same outcome as the U.S. Civil War in the 19th Century. As society breaks down, other parts of our economy and civilization break down. Businesses will cease to operate. General services will become unavailable, and confidence in government is destroyed. The legal framework is being destroyed because justice is denied because of ideological lies. When the legal framework is destroyed, the entitlement among the population mindset will lead to murder, rape, destruction of property, starvation for some, and cannibalism for others.

There is no civilization without law and order. A barbaric society is a society with little or no law and order. When Europeans came to the Americas, they brought civilization, i.e. law and order, with them. While there were atrocities committed, the overall effect of European influence was to civilize, to bring law and order, to the peoples in the Americas.

One of the signs of barbarity, or the lack of law and order, is the systematic killing of babies and children (this includes unborn babies). Other signs of barbarity are the lack of children born in the bulk of a nation’s marriages and the decline of marriage.