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When They Know the Message is True but They Don't Like It, They Attack the Messenger... In a Way, it's a Validation that the Mesage is Accurate!

meme - When They Know the Message is True but they don't like it, They Attack the Messenger...

When debating an issue, people that have NO GOOD STATEMENTS resort to Name Calling... I Notice this tactic A LOT in the Republican Party... Epecially tRUMP!

Ad Hominem (Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument. The fallacious attack can also be direct to membership in a group or institution.

Ad Hominem (Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person




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SE SAID:

I don't really understand this constant debate about whether or not pineapple belongs on pizza. Pizza restaurants in my area have always offered a Hawaiian pizza on their menu, even when I was a kid. A Hawaiian pizza is usually ham and pineapple, but sometimes it's Canadian bacon and pineapple. But every pizza restaurant offers a Hawaiian pizza, and it's nothing new, so it seems strange to me that it's only been in the last 3 or 4 years that I've seen this debate about whether or not it "belongs" on pizza. Maybe it's less common in other states?

The only thing I don't like about Hawaiian pizza is the ham. I'm not a fan of ham, and I typically prefer pizza without any meat at all, so I'm not likely to order the Hawaiian pizza for myself. But in situations where someone orders several pizzas to feed a large crowd, Hawaiian is usually one of the pizzas because many people love it. I actually like the combination of pepperoni and pineapple better than ham and pineapple. If you don't like Hawaiian pizza, that's fine, everyone has their preferences. But whether or not it "belongs" on the menu? That part is odd to me.

SH SAID:
The Hawaiian pizza in my hometown pizzeria also had banana on it. That never struck me as odd as a kid. It was my favourite. The sweet and salty together with the acid of the pineapple is good.

SE SAID: I don't think I've ever had crab on pizza, but it sure sounds good. I have had shrimp on pizza many times, and I love it. Lobster would be good too.

I Replied: I worked at Dominos in Maryland and there was a Fish Store next door... so we both donated and everyone ate...

MM SAID: I happen to like it. I’ve had dried mango slices with prosciutto and arugula on pizza so pineapple is not a stretch.
There are some Americans who put pineapple slices on a ham before baking it, and it adds a bit of tenderness and sweetness to the meat. So what’s the difference?

NL SAID: In SF people seem to be more liberal with pizza toppings. My favorite used to be a potato and pesto one. I'm like you. I usually only eat vegetarian pizza. Pineapple happens to be my favorite topping. I usually pair it with jalapenos and onions. But if I'm gonna go for the non veggie version, it's pineapple, jalapenos, onions and anchovies!

SE SAID: When I lived in L.A., I was really surprised that most pizza places did NOT have pesto pizza. Here in the Bay Area, pesto pizza has always been a thing. There are very few pizza places which DON'T offer it. I also remember when I went to New York City in '93 and again in '94, none of those wonderful New York pizza-by-the-slice places had pesto. But they all had spinach pizza, which surprised me for some reason. But it was SO GOOD. I prefer pizza with veggie toppings rather than meat, and I was surprised New York had so many veggie options. I would have assumed veggie pizza was more of a West Coast thing, but you never know. spinach on pizza is so good! They don't offer green olives on pizza in SoCal too and every place up north did. Green is so much better on pizza!

NL SAID: Eh, I can't stand any olives, green or black. It's the only food I hate. If olives end up on my pizza, I'm picking them off.

SE Replied:  too bad. I also remember that kalamata olives and feta goes great on pizza too.

I Said: Canadian Bacon is a Good addition to Pineapple Pizza... or Ham... 

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Thanksgiving with my Family as a Child. In Los Gatos and Sacramento.

We went to Sacramento on Thanksgiving to Uncle Marc and Aunt Peg's home. They had two daughters, Robin and Jill. Uncle Marc was a criminal defense attorney in Sacramento and Aunt Peg was a Social Worker. Jill became a lawyer and moved to Seattle and Robin went to work at Uncle Marc's Law office. One time a client of Aunt Peg's did a Bank Robbery and was holding hostages. The police called her and said that the only person he felt comfortable talking to was his social worker... She negotiate the release of the hostages. 

We alternated Locations Every Year. One Year we would all go out to dinner in Los Gatos at a Fancy Restaurant (Villa Felice Or La Hacienda) and the Other Year we had a home cooked meal in Sacramento. After Dinner we always took a "Forced March" down the Street to Land Park... I Never Liked That but... It WAS FORCED so I Participated. I Also Remember Debating with Uncle Marc About Important Subjects. He always won  the Debates. I Guess since he TALKED FOR A LIVING he Had Become Skilled at That. I Also believe he simply took the opposite viewpoint just to exercise my brain... Get me Thinking... No Matter What the Subject was he took the Opposite... 

Once I Asked Uncle Marc about Defending Guilty People. He Said: "We Don't Know if They are Guilty. That's for Judges and Jurors to Decide. AND... Every person deserves a Defense Attorney... Not Only a Defense Attorney but a MAD DOG Defense Attorney that will Fight for Him... 

As a child my family climbed the Cinder Cone at Mount Lassen. It's a pile of volcanic ash. It was difficult to climb as we slid down while walking up. "Two steps forward one step back." The whole family went. Uncle Marc and Aunt Peg, Cousins Robin and Jill.

We camped at the Lake and went to a campfire talk by Park Rangers. They told the story of the Indians of Lassen and the History of the Volcano exploding. Lava flowed as far away as Chico. The volcano once was a giant mountain in prehistoric times... They showed illustrations of how big it was in comparison to the seemingly tiny mountain that remains...

The highlight of any trip to Lassen was the Bubbling Mudpots of Bumpass Hell. It's a valley of hot springs that is bright orange and yellow. Extremely hot sulfur vents out of the volcano making lakes of hot bubbling mud. It was named for an early explorer, Kendall Bumpass, who fell into a mudpot and died from the heat. There are sulfur springs right on the road but the best ones are an easy one and a half mile hike away from the parking lot. The rangers built wooden boardwalks for tourists to go out over the mudpots safely.

Read more of My Autobiography at:

https://gvan42.blogspot.com/2018/03/growing-up-in-los-gatos-california-in.html


Vanderlaan Family at Thanksgiving
Vanderlaan Family at Thanksgiving:
Left to Right Standing: Robin's Husband, Robin's Son, My Brother Martin, My Dad Justin.
Seated: Cousin Robin, Patti's Mom Bonita, Patti-Martin's Wife, Child, Uncle Marcus, Aunt Peg and Mom-Marguerite

Marcus Vanderlaan - My Uncle
Marcus Vanderlaan - My Uncle


I remember Going to Anti Vietnam War Protest Marches... Including a Candle Light Parade Down Main Street Los Gatos With My Parents... I'm Glad that They Raised Me to Be in Favor of Good and Opposed to Evil...

And then My  Facebook Group Commented!

MWWW: My family was there, too!

DS: I remember going to the candlelight parade

CC: I remember watching the coffins coming off of the military planes each night...so incredibly sad

NM: I was there too; what year was the candlelight event?

SCB: We went every Christmas Eve, walked, held candles and sang songs. I was young and actually thought it was a part of celebrating Christmas. One Christmas Eve I asked my mom where my candle was that I would be holding and she told me the war was over. I didn’t really understand they were related. I remember being sad that we weren’t going to march anymore as it was one of my favorite parts of Christmas. (I obviously did not understand) My dad was the head of the Peace Center in Los Gatos. I still remember looking at a dove holding an olive branch necklace there that I had wanted. At 20 years old I had that symbol tattooed on me. The only tat I have and I have never regretted it. I’m glad to see that others also remember this.

JM: I was born and raised in Los Gatos, and knew nothing of these candlelight vigils. I enlisted in March 1965, before I had heard of Vietnam. A friend and I tried to hitchhike to Selma, to join Martin Luther King in his march from Selma to Montgomery for Negro voting rights. We got busted as runaways, and my dad suggested if I really wanted to help our country, maybe I should consider joining the military.
After Vietnam, it may seem strange that someone working for Civil Rights would join the military, but my grandfather fought in WWI and WWII and my dad was a Navy pilot in WWII and the Korean War. Eisenhower and JFK had used US troops to desegregate the South. I was very gung-ho.
I breezed through Basic Training, top 5% of Advanced Electronics training, volunteered for Jump School - and right about then, LBJ send the first US combat troops to Vietnam. I got my paratrooper wings and volunteered for helicopter pilot school. I was going all the way.
But, then I started talking to Special Forces troops who had come back from Vietnam, bragging about kicking prisoners out of helicopters at 1,500' to get other prisoners to talk, flying over villages shooting everything that moves (adding to the "Body Count"), and calling our supposed allies "Gooks".
I started researching what we were doing there in the first place and found that we were supporting a corrupt Catholic government in a Buddhist land. The monks who set themselves on fire, who I thought were protesting the godless Commies, were actually protesting the oppressive US backed South Vietnamese government. The Vietnamese people fought for their independence from the Chinese, the Japanese, and the French, and now the US, who took over from the French, after they refused to give up their colonies after WWII.
By March 1966 I had determined that the war had shattered my ideals of an honorable military, and I could not participate in it. To make a very long story short, at my court martial I quoted from the Nuremberg Trials that soldiers had a right and duty to oppose a war they felt to be illegal and immoral. But, at the time, there were no regulations for someone who enlisted to declare themselves to be a Conscientious Objector.
After a total of one and a half years of honorable duty, two years AWOL, and a year in jail, I was released in September 1969.
In 1974 I received a Presidential Pardon as acknowledgement of my sincere opposition to the war.
I don't know what years those vigils were, but I'm glad to hear about them. I was estranged from my parents and almost all my friends - I was just too early being against the war. In the end, most friends and family recognized I was on the right side of history. I finally got out in September 1969, just as many were still fighting against the war or dying for it. At the start of the Iraq War, I joined Veterans for Peace, and helped to organize Arlington West Memorials, spoke at colleges, and rallies. Since Vietnam too many wars for oil and politics - too many deaths, grievous injuries, and wasted trillions, for nothing.

AB: Jon, your family and friends should be very proud of how you have conducted yourself throughout your adult life. If they don't, it's on them...NOT you! Great job.

JL: Gregory, did you also spit on our soldiers too?

KK: that wasn't protesting....we carried signs and marched and sang and held anti war concerts and wrote letters to the govt!

KK: what you are referring to was assault...not protesting~

KK: we carried flowers and solicited PEACE!....cue: Are You Going to San Francisco~...feel free to sing along~

JM: The spitting legend was BS - there's a book called Spitting Image, that details when the story first started circulating - well after the war. He also details all the versions of the story. I walked down Telegraph Ave in Berkeley in March 1966, in my full paratrooper dress uniform - got some strange looks, but no disrespect.
The most common form of the story was that a soldier arrived from Vietnam, landing in SFO, and while walking down the terminal a young hippie chick comes up to him and spits in his face, (there are a couple of version of what she said), and said, "You're a baby killer".
It never happened. The anti-war movement was for peace, not confrontation, mostly following MLK and Gandhi's non-violence, except for small radical groups, that gave the real peace movement a bad name.

JL: If you were in the service you would sing a different song. No problem with MLK, was Gandhi a U.S. citizen?

LM: Jon Monday I disagree. I was spit on at the bus station in San Francisco on my return from Vietnam. After arriving in San Jose, taking a cab home, when the can driver founded out I just got home from Nam, he pulled over and threw me out of his cab. You…See More

GT: Funny how it was ok to protest back then..but not now

SL: Cook It was OK to protest back then - pretty much everybody was against the war. It was not OK to harass the troops. They were subject to the draft and had limited choices (prison or leaving the country) other than serving. The lack of support for them was horrible.

KK: me too!

ABG: I assume that it is the protest against stay-at-home and related guidelines to which you refer. If so, you are clearly comparing apples to dog shit (oranges are WAY too similar). On the one hand, people were protesting a long term conflict (it w…See More

AB: In case its not obvious, you hit what is probably my largest peeve. I'm even more amazed that since you're only a year younger than me, you should have been affected by the draft as well. I had 4 years of my life disrupted that I could never get back. And, I was lucky that after being drafted, I was able to get into a job that kept me in the States during my service. To this day, I am especially sensitive to how poorly people in the service were treated before, during and after Vietnam. NEVER has there been a time in our history where the people who served during those years have been disrespected and shit on like Vietnam era veterans. End of rant.

JM: Beg to differ, the peace movement embraced Veterans and provided services for homeless and drug addition.Counseled people facing the draft how to get out, and counseled soldiers how to get out as a CO. Right through the late 60s, 70s, all the way to the Iraq and Afghanistan war, the peace movement has supported active duty and veterans with love and recognition. Veteran For Peace is one such group. Those who ignored the returning troops were not the people who protested against the war.

AB: I think you misunderstood what I said. Where did you think I was accusing war protesters of treating veterans badly? Granted it's been almost 50 years ago but I do have some memories of people in uniform being harassed as war mongers and baby killers during some protests. Any group is going to have at least a few "bad eggs" but they were a small minority. In any case, they aren't the ones about whom I was referring.

MB: Do you remember the sit-ins that we had on the front lawn when we refused to go to classes?

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and then I Said: 

I Realize that it is Difficult to Believe Now BUT... There Were People That Actually Thought The Vietnam War Was a Great Idea! REALLY! I'm NOT Making this UP. 

During the Late 1960s The Majority of Americans BELIEVED the Government and Supported the War... OBEY! Said Lyndon Johnson and The Sheeple Obeyed... Sir, Yes Sir! Then Years Later THEY WOKE THE F*CK UP! Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding... REALITY CALLING! As a Matter of Fact, in 1968, Richard Nixon Campaigned Promising to End the War... With Honor... and then he Kept the war going until 1973... Classic "Say One Thing and Do the Opposite." 

I Grasp the Concept. DOW Chemical was Making a Fortune Selling Napalm and Agent Orange. Hughes Aircraft was Making a Fortune Selling Helicopters... and the List Goes On and On and On... Corporations selling Bandages to the Military need wounded soldiers to increase sales... Corporations Selling Meals Ready To Eat and BOOTS and Guns and Bullets and Jet Airplanes... Our Own FMC sold Machine Guns that shot Winged Needles and the World Famous Bradly Fighting Vehicle... It's all part of the Strategy of BLOW UP RANDOM COUNTRIES FOR CORPORATE PROFIT!




anti-war Free Coloring Book Art by gvan42 Gregory Vanderlaan

Chart of American Deaths Per War  by gvan42 Gregory Vanderlaan

Chart: Where the Notes are on the Piano and Guitar - by gvan42 Gregory Vanderlaan


SNCC Benefit Speech at My Parent's Home in Los Gatos, CA - In the Sixties, They Raised Funds to Pay for Freedom Riders in the South. Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, https://gvan42.blogspot.com/2021/03/sncc-benefit-speech-at-my-parents-home.html

I Remember That We Had a Black Man Talk. My Folks PACKED The House With People and Took Donations. 

In General, The Civil Rights Movement was Successful. President Lyndon Johnson Signed Laws That Allowed Black People to Vote and Live in White Neighborhoods. My Parents Helped!

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/johnson-signs-civil-rights-act

Years Later I Bought a Condo in a Black Neighborhood near Washington DC. There was a DEEP DISCOUNT if You Chose a Black Neighborhood. The Same Condo in Virginia cost $39,000 but in Beautiful Oxon Hill, Maryland the Price was $26,000. It Turns Out That the Peter, Paul and Mary Lyric is Accurate. "They Say that Property Values Will Go Right Down if The Family Next Door is Blue." --- I Selected the Discount. Because I Don't Care What Color My Neighbors Are. at Least I'm Not Going to PAY EXTRA For White Neighbors... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SywxNX6u_s


LINKS To More Blog Posts!

Join the Cult of Moral Greyness! Now Accepting GNU Members... Anti-Heroes, Misunderstood Victims and those who Embrace Immorality! BIG FUN!

I found this Paragraph in a Debate in Facebook about the Electoral College. Is it a Good Idea or Totally BOGUS? The Author is Dr. Victor Koman. 

He said: "Strange... I remember when it was the Left that accused the Right of being moralistic and uptight for not merely believing in right and wrong, but believing in reflecting morality in law and culture. The intellectual/artistic Left reacted by promoting the cult of moral grayness, creating TV and movies and novels with "anti-heroes", making villains from literature and history into "misunderstood" victims or even heroes in their own way. Pornography was defended and celebrated and immorality was embraced."

https://gvan42.blogspot.com/2019/06/is-electoral-college-best-way-to-select.html

I believe it is important to understand the difference between fiction and reality. While there are "anti-heroes" in books, TV and movies, they are much less significant than real life mass murderers. Compare the CHARACTER played by Peter Fonda in "Easy Rider" with George W Bush the Son. I have spoken to actual people that were Iraq War Veterans suffering from PTSD. I worked at the Welfare Department in Eureka, California and my job was to interview real people who were applying for Food Stamps, MediCal, MediCare, General Relief and Social Security Disability benefits. Many of our Clients were Homeless Veterans. Every single one of them believed that the US Government was Totally Wrong about Going to War in Iraq and Afghanistan. Some believed that George W Bush the son was DEMONICALLY POSSESSED... They felt that SATAN was running the US Military. That's the opinion of people who served, and then couldn't take care of themselves when they got back home. The Experience of Committing Murder for Corporate Profit drove those men Mad. We did offer free rent and food stamps... a bed in a room with roommates in a big old Victorian House and about enough Food Stamps to eat for Two Weeks a Month. We also pointed out the location of the free meals... BUT, they had to quit drinking and smoking weed, meth & heroin. Many did not want to stop their addictions... Many found relief from the nightmares by smoking weed and drinking booze... It's a Fact of life that Booze and Drugs Ease the pain... Especially PTSD... The Vietnam Veterans Organization offered Housing and Food every day but many Veterans ridiculed that offer. They said, "If I wanted Free Food and a Home in the Barracks, I'd Just Re-UP and they would also give me a Paycheck." 

In Contrast, None of my Homeless Clients Blamed CHARACTERS in a Movie for their troubles... "reflecting morality in law and culture" is a TOTALLY BIZARRO WORLD concern and has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH REALITY. Obviously, "The Right" has totally lost touch with the concept of Right and Wrong.Recently, President Trump has approved the sale of weapons to Saudi Arabia to be used to kill people in Yemen... The US Congress voted to block this sale but they did not get ENOUGH Republicriminals to make it a VETO PROOF VOTE. Somehow those people feel that killing People in Yemen is a Good Idea! INSANE! 

I have heard of a Movie influencing a person's behavior... A Young Couple in the South took LSD and then watched the Movie "Natural Born Killers" and they they took a road trip and killed people... REALLY! ...and then... There was The Manson Family... OFTEN pointed to as an example of "Hippie Debauchery" and a LOSS of Family Values... (for sake of argument, let's ignore the influence of Charlie spending over half of his life in Jail) ...and... The Altamont Rock Concert where a member of The Hell's Angels Motorcycle Gang Murdered a person... All of these events are part of American History and I Believe they Really Happened. AND We got that Great TV Show "Charlie's Angels" about a Mysterious Powerful Man who got women to do things For Him... Just Like The REAL Charlie who did not actually kill anyone, he got "The Angels" to kill for him. Of Course, when they submitted the plot to the TV Show production gurus, they switched from a BAD CHARLIE to a GOOD CHARLIE... Hey, better ratings, larger demographic, get kids to watch it too... and we can sell DOLLS if we hare Beautiful Women to play the parts. One fact of life is that Charles Manson's Girls tried to earn a living as Topless Dancers in LA but they were NOT HIRED... 

For those of you Keeping Score, The Manson Family KILLED Seven People, The Natural Born Killers Movie Fans Killed Two people and Altamont had One Fatality... A Grand Total of TEN People. DO THE MATH! I George Bush the Son caused over 6,000 fatalities in his wars in Iraq and Afghanistan... does that mean he is A THOUSAND TIMES AS BAD AS CHARLES MANSON? Yes, It Does!

"Reflecting Morality in Law." What the Fuct! Is this supposed to imply that Republicriminals WROTE LAWS that Reflected Morality? The Patriot ACT is a perfect example... Authorizing Spying on Americans.. Very similar to the ANTI-HERO of George Orwell's 1984... Big Brother is Watching You.

I often hear the excuse "But Mommy, all the Other Kids are doing it, Why Can't I?" For example: some Right Wing Whack Jobs state that Democratic Presidents were Mass Murderers also and that makes the INSANITY of Nixon, Reagan, Bush the Father, Bush the Son and Trump all Forgiven... It's True that Lyndon Johnson Continued the Vietnam War that Kennedy Started... and in the end 58,000 Americans Died for Nothing. Well, LBJ went back to his ranch and DRANK HIMSELF TO DEATH. Instant Karma Gonna Get You! said John Lennon. Libertarians recommends that we take the power to start a war away from the President. Fine Idea until we actually get attacked... and then that idealistic and naive plan fails. We actually have experienced ATTACKS ON THE USA and It was Really Wonderful that Our President was Commander in Chief of the Military. World War Two and 9/11 are perfect examples of why we need to keep the chain of command exactly as it is now. Libertarian Ideas just Make No Sense. Unless you are a CHARACTER in a Book, Like The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged or The Turner Diaries... True, after 9/11 we blew up the wrong country but... that was all George Tenet's Fault... supposedly... at least that's what Evil Dick Cheney says NOW... What ever happened to Donald Rumsfeld? I never hear anything about him. Condi Rice is teaching College at Stanford. Cheney is Campaigning for his Daughter to be Senator from Wyoming. Colin Powell is sometimes seen as a Talking Head on TV News Shows like CNN and MSNBC... Infotainment shows... 30 seconds of news and five minutes of commentary teaching you what to think. 

I look forward to joining another "Cult of Moral Greyness." Presided over by the Nattering Nabobs of Negativity... Did you ever see Rachael Maddow's TV Show about Spiro Agnew the Vice President under Richard Nixon... for a while... until he had to resign in disgrace for taking bribes and getting CAUGHT! Then Nixon appointed Gerald Ford to be Vice President and Later, Ford repaid the favor by Pardoning Nixon... Quid Pro Quo? OH NO! I'm Shocked, Shocked to find Gambling Going on in this Casino! - Casablanca.

I actually have some practical Life experience with Cults... And The WERE Morally Grey! First, I attended 39 Grateful Dead Concerts and ate LSD often. Second, I Joined Alcoholics Anonymous... Often described by outsiders as a Brainwashing Sex Cult. I Have to agree that it's Actually True BUT THAT'S BETTER THAN DRINKING. 

Open the Doors of Perception - gvan42 - Gregory Vanderlaan Self Portrait





Biden Wins Election. Trump's Failure Is Undeniable... TrumpNiks May WANT To Live in a Fantasy World BUT... They Are Doomed to Fail! REALITY BITES if Your Boy is a LOSER!

Trump is Worried About Going To Prison and It Really Shows - a Primal Animal Panic - Lion Zebra meme - gvan42
Trump is Worried About Going To Prison 
and It Really Shows - a Primal Animal Panic.
I COULD TASTE HIS FEAR DURING THE DEBATE
WITH JOE BIDEN... 

I know a Lady That Refused to Believe that her Car Was Driving HEAD ON INTO A LOGGING TRUCK but REALITY Reminded Her That It Really Exists No Matter What You Believe... She Grasped That Concept When Her Head Went Thru the Windshield... Trump is Like That... He REFUSES TO NOTICE REALITY... Bad Plan... A Better Idea Would Be To WAKE THE F*CK UP!®
Trump is Like That... He REFUSES TO NOTICE REALITY... Bad Plan...


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The Presidential debate didn't help Trump catch Biden, but the horror show scared America...  In the midst of a deadly coronavirus pandemic, economic distress and racial turmoil, American voters deserved a serious exploration of the nation's problems and the range of solutions. Instead, they got a chaotic insult fest that was like one of those awful 90-minute movies that leave the audience dumber than when it went into the theater... 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/todaysdebate/2020/09/30/presidential-debate-trump-biden-scared-america-editorials-debates/3580566001/


Wall Street Rejects Trump... World stocks fell and safer assets, such as the yen and dollar, found buyers on Wednesday after a chaotic first U.S. presidential debate and rising COVID-19 cases turned investors cautious, though strong factory surveys boosted China’s markets. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets/global-stocks-pull-back-as-acrimonious-u-s-debate-stokes-caution-idUSKBN26K3R3


Yes, Trump Wants to Take Away Your Health Care... It was hard to hear in the first twenty minutes of incessant cross-talk of Donald Trump repeatedly interrupting Joe Biden, but the takeaway of the start of the first presidential debate was clear: Yes, the president sees the recent vacancy on the Supreme Court as an opening to dismantle the Affordable Care Act. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/09/donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-obamacare/


What Did Trump Mean When He Told Proud Boys to ‘Stand Back and Stand By’? [Be Ready To Attack During The Boogaloo] https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-proud-boys-debate-1068580/ 


Proud Boys Sentenced to 4 Years In Prison for Attacking Protesters... The judge’s remarks at sentencing indicate that despite its pretenses otherwise, the Proud Boys is “really just a bunch of street thugs.” https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/proud-boys-sentenced-four-years-jail-antifa-902310/


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