The Number One Cause of Death by Gunshot is Suicide. That's A Blessing as It Reduces the Number of "Gun Nuts" Alive.
KD Replied: Not a very nice thing to say Greg! You may want to rethink this post or remove it.
BAH Said: Not all gun owners are nuts. Moving to Idaho I discovered most here own them as there is hunting season here. I now own one for the purpose of going to a range to do target shooting. A common sport here and it is fun. We have very little gun crime here. And, I am not a nut.
I Replied: Go right ahead... Risk your life and your families lives... In 2017, 39,773 people died from gun-related injuries in the U.S., according to the CDC. Though they tend to get less attention than gun-related murders, suicides have long accounted for the majority of U.S. gun deaths. https://www.pewresearch.org/.../what-the-data-says-about.../
MD Said: According to your rationale, might as well stop driving a car too
Approximately 1.35 million people die in road crashes each year; on average 3,700 people lose their lives every day on the roads. An additional 20-50 million suffer non-fatal injuries, often resulting in long-term disabilities.
I Replied: I don't own a car... I Only leave the house about once every three months and I Use Uber or Lyft... However... Cars provide a useful service... Guns Do Not. Absolutely useless... I truly Believe That the desire to Own Guns is a Genetic Trait. If Your Grandfather Owned Guns and your Father Owned Guns... it's Likely that You and Your Children will Own Guns... There is a "Gun Nut" Gene... and the Human Race would be better off when That Gene Goes Extinct... Did You Notice that Automobile Exhaust is a Major Cause of Climate Change? I have Often Ridden the City Bus to and From Work... It's Great... Especially in Eureka... I walked three City blocks to the Stop, Got On and the Bus Driver woke me up when we got to work... Then On the Ride Home I Chatted with a Pretty Girl that Worked at Costco... You Can't Meet Women if You Drive by Yourself in a Car...
JJ Said: Yeah. That doesn’t work on BART.
I Replied: Many Kind Services like the Bus Driver Watching out for me Fail IN THE CITY... That's The Beauty of Living in Small Town USA. I FLED San Jose in the Late 1990s and Moved to CHICO... and Rode My Bike Everywhere... then in 2001 Went to Humboldt State University in Arcata... It's almost Impossible to Believe that the "Real World" Exists when Living behind the Redwood Curtain... I see on TV That Those People Over There are Behaving Crazy and their Lives Suck... but then I Change the Channel...
JJ Said: Ya know. This has been debated. Argued. Yelled. Screamed. Legislated.
All ineffectively.
Two reasons.
1. Criminals do not follow any laws.
2. Congress does not want to piss off donors.
Stop and search laws were considered unlegal after implementing due to the overzealous actions of police.
Since this will always occur with military style police departments, it will prove to be ineffective continually unless other legislation is used to describe when and where to use stop and search techniques. You think since we have an all Democratic Congress right now that this would be possible but in fact most elected officials are so incompetent they can’t see through their own fucking glasses to get things done correctly. Actually writing legislature such that in very high crime cities are high crime parts of cities within certain boundaries, stop and search techniques are allowed, and only for the purpose of capturing weapons. Violators are not arrested their weapons are just taken away and they are put on a list that says who they are and what was taken from them. If they get caught a week later with another weapon then you can deal with them legally. But the law can’t just give police carte blanche to stop and search any car anytime anywhere if it’s not in one of the exceptionally high weapon crime areas.
Additional legislation would also be required to stop people with mental problems, histories, and could be even taking a step further that before you become a gun owner, you have to have a psychological profile done. Of course all these open up more and more lawsuits and so it would have to be vetted properly and conducted properly and taking into account the persons history, social media etc.
it also help if there was a database that showed what people were considered irresponsible, racist, volatile and these people are not allowed to have a gun. They would say it’s a violation of their constitutional rights but in fact, if Congress looked at the constitution correctly, they would understand that the purpose of the second amendment was to provide for a quick militia to be available if necessary. It wasn’t intended to let mentally ill criminals or violent people have a gun so they can use it inappropriately. Making that distinction of intent from the constitution is an important part of providing new laws that serve the times that we’re in. But the problem again is that our Congress is too ignorant to actually decipher these realities and propose and pass adequate legislature that takes into account the intent of the militia, which really no longer applies in 2021, and defers gun ownership to people who it is inappropriate for them to have.
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